Yet W/ D. Jones in his 1968 interview with Playboy was also definite: "During the five big gun battles I was with them [which included Joplin], she never fired a gun." Bonnie's mother, Emma, and sister, Billie Jean, were adamant that Bonnie didn't fire even one bullet from the time she met Clyde until her death." - p 398 What Jeff Guinn did was take us all the way to the beginning. And when I say beginning, I mean before Bonnie and Clyde were even twinkle's in their parents eyes. He get's to the roots of both families. This was maybe the hardest part to get through but, in the end, I found it helped to understand why the pair turned out the way they did. Both came from dirt poor families who had been ruined from The Great Depression. Bonnie's mother fared slightly better than Clyde's parents but both had gone through a lot. Hamer became a senior captain of the Rangers in 1922 and played a large role combating the Ku Klux Klan in Texas. He became known for his ability to control riots and his patient, skilled investigative work. He resigned in 1932 when Miriam “Ma” Ferguson—who detested the Rangers—recaptured the Governor’s Office. He turned to mostly private investigation work before being hired to hunt down Bonnie and Clyde following the Eastham breakout. In school, Bonnie liked to make up songs and stories. She also liked to write poems. Once she was on the run with Clyde, she had plenty of new material to write about. Stewing in jail for a short spell in April 1932, Bonnie wrote ten poems that she grouped as Poetry from Life’s Other Side. They were poems about the lives of criminals and the women who suffered because of them, including “The Story of Suicide Sal,” about a woman who joins a gang and is left to rot in prison by an uncaring man:

Bonnie didn't mind having guns around. She just didn't want to shoot them." - p 165, GO DOWN TOGETHER Published in 2009, Go Down Together was Guinn’s first book. Since that time, he has become one of the best chroniclers of historical true crime, producing excellent volumes on Charles Manson and Jim Jones. Decades later, asked about long-standing rumors suggesting that her infamous former beau was either gay or impotent, she assured the interviewer that Clyde "didn't have any problems at all," and left no doubt that she spoke as an authority on the subject." - p 36 Goodnight Saigon" is a song written by Billy Joel, originally appearing on his 1982 album The Nylon Curtain, about the Vietnam War. It depicts the situation and attitude of United States Marines beginning with their military training on Parris Island and then into different aspects of Vietnam combat. The overall time frame of Clyde and Bonnie’s time in the sun, so to speak, was really very short. From their rise to national fame after the Joplin incident to their ultimate death by ambush was a mere 14 months.

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Bordowitz, H. (2006). Billy Joel: The Life & Times of an Angry Young Man. Random House. pp.143–145. ISBN 9780823082483. Importantly, Guinn is clear-eyed about who he is writing about. He lays out the complexities of their upbringings in the West Dallas slums, shows the desperation of their circumstances, but never lets them off the hook, never apologizes for their actions. Clyde was an outlaw and a killer, and in no way a decent member of civilization. Despite Guinn’s soft spot for Bonnie – a wannabe poet who was not likely a trigger-puller – he still shows her as an aider and abettor who refused to leave Clyde’s side, even knowing what he’d done. One facet of this story that interests me is: Did Bonnie Parker ever actually shoot at anyone? It seems that the official police story is that she was a cold-blooded murderer &, therefore, deserved to be gunned down in an ambush. Other sources, closer to Parker, say she never shot at anybody. I tend to take it for granted that the police will lie to justify murder but I'm not so sure that friends & acquaintances of Bonnie Parker wd have such a clear-cut motive for lying about her not being the gun-toting killer she's reputed as being. LYDEN: Jeff Guinn. He's the author of "Go Down Together: The True, Untold Story of Bonnie and Clyde." a b c d e f g h i Bielen, K. (2011). The Words and Music of Billy Joel. ABC-CLIO. pp.59–60. ISBN 9780313380167.

Bonnie follows Clyde wherever he goes; her only real goal in life is to travel away from the mundane trappings of her upbringing. Before she met Clyde, Guinn writes that it is possible that Bonnie worked as a prostitute to make enough money for the makeup and posh clubs she wanted. Clyde's father, Henry, was practically the archetypal working-entirely-too-hard-for-too-little kindofa guy. Mr. GUINN: Well, the movie is wonderful entertainment, but it's less than five percent historically accurate. The coroner’s report detailed 17 holes in Clyde’s body and 26 holes in Bonnie’s body. Unofficially, there may have been many more. C.B. Bailey, the undertaker assigned to preserve the bodies for the funerals, found that the bodies had so many holes in them in so many different places that it was difficult to keep embalming fluid in them.A snapshot of the couple found at an abandoned hide-out, with pistol-toting Bonnie smoking a cigar, was subsequently distributed to the press... Go Down Together is neatly divided into four sections. The first covers Bonnie and Clyde’s childhoods and early years, including Clyde’s time in Eastham Prison, where he killed an inmate who repeatedly raped him. The second follows the escapades of the so-called Barrow Gang, as they made a crime-filled circuit of Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Missouri (among other states). About the only thing missing in this section was a map, which would have made following their oft-lethal adventures a bit easier. The third section follows the hunt for Bonnie and Clyde, led by famed Texas Ranger Frank Hamer, which culminated in a controversially excessive ambush near Gibsland, Louisiana. The final, shortest portion of the book is devoted to tying up loose ends and meditating on the twisted legacies of Bonnie and Clyde. Taken altogether, it is hard to find fault with this presentation. It answers just about every question, points out areas of dispute with regard to the evidence, and is written with an understated compassion, especially as to the Barrow and Parker families.

What set Bonnie and Clyde apart – what immortalized them – was the admixture of sex and violence. When pictures of Bonnie chomping a cigar and holding guns were published in papers, it created an image that has endured for decades.The reality is that Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow were what is known as "trailer trash" in 2016. They were poorly educated, impulsive, undisciplined, violent, dangerous, immature and fatalistic - which made them very dangerous. With nothing to lose they took wild chances and got away with it for awhile. Their behavior is no different from most low-level criminals of today-to include an inability to cut the ties to their families and friends. Jeff Guin shows all of this in his book. At one point he observes that the only criminal activity that they truly excelled in was car theft. The film accurately depicts Hamer’s chase in his painstaking attention to detail and the long stretches of monotony. In an effort to emulate the Barrow Gang and learn their habits, Hamer drove hundreds of miles a day in Barrow’s preferred car model, the Ford V-8 Sedan, ate hot dogs and slept out of his car. In later interviews he remembered coming across their abandoned campgrounds, finding “stubs of Bonnie’s Camels—Clyde smoked Bull Durham—lettuce leaves for the white rabbit, pieces of sandwiches, a button off Clyde’s coat.” The city dazzled him with its endless stream of possibilities. Unlike tiny Telico, if you wanted to go to the picture show, you could choose between dozens of films instead of just one. Some Dallas theaters changed features four times a week, and not long after Clyde arrived for good in 1925, silent movies began gradually giving way to talkies." - p 29

isn't that what CLASS WAR is all about? Unscrupulous rich people not only controlling resources but also controlling other people's opportunities, closing other people's lives in more & more. Revolting against being trapped by vampires is a healthy natural response. What an eye opener! Forget everything you may have heard or seen particularly if you have seen the movie starring Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. Jeff Guinn, the author of this book has meticulously researched this saga, and provides an extensive source listing. It’s so complete that it seems almost every line in the text is sourced from a letter, an interview, police reports, etc. Hats off to his comprehensive research efforts. a b c d e f g Holden, S. (October 14, 1982). "The Nylon Curtain". Rolling Stone . Retrieved 2014-03-30. Interviewer: "& no-one ever said to you that Bonnie had participated in the shooting or that she ever killed anyone?" The lyrics of "Goodnight Saigon" are about Marines in battle bonding together, fighting their fears and trying to figure out how to survive. [1] The singer, a Marine, sings of "we" rather than "I", emphasizing that the Marines are all in the situation together. [1] In the bridge Joel sings of the darkness and the fear it induced in the Marines. [1] This leads into the refrain, which has multiple voices coming together to sing that the Marines will "all go down together", emphasizing their camaraderie. [1] [2]urn:lcp:godowntogethertr0000guin:lcpdf:3a6fcfa2-88df-418c-990b-1181ac47d599 Foldoutcount 0 Identifier godowntogethertr0000guin Identifier-ark ark:/13960/s2803x7dh6w Invoice 1652 Isbn 9781416557067 The element of inevitable doom in Bonnie & Clyde’s tale probably contributes a lot to this, and while Guinn makes it a very real presence, he hardly had to invent it; throughout much of their brief criminal careers, B&C knew there was only one possible ending to their story, and were often completely frank and casual about it. Campbell, Mary (October 30, 1982). "Bill Joel Uses Seven Fingers at the Piano". Daytona Beach Morning Journal. p.12D . Retrieved 2016-04-12. The Bible was replete with reminders that Jesus loved poor people a lot more than he did rich ones. Wearing patched clothes and sometimes not having enough to eat were, in effect, evidence of personal godliness. The implication was obvious, if not declared outright: poor people were good, rich people were bad." - p 14